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New build - 10/22/2011 9:47:21 AM   
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Hi guys!

My son has decided he wants to build a gaming pc.
He wants to play World of Warcraft and some other games like Star Wars and, and, and...... games.

He doesn't have a great deal of money so price is an issue.

Can you good people recommend pieces and parts that would run these games smoothly, but cheaply?
I guess it doesn't matter if the system is a pre-built one as long as it will run these games.

What do you think?

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RE: New build - 10/22/2011 12:31:48 PM   
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Best to post it as I see it , so starting with this ......
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/best-graphics-card-gaming-performance,review-32301.html

Obviously there will need to be a compromise between afordability and performance.
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RE: New build - 10/22/2011 1:49:31 PM   
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If gaming is the priority you have to build everything around the video card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309967-33-cheap-gaming-video-card

Here are some suggestions.

Either way I would stick with an intel build instead of AMD. AMD is known for better gaming stats and might be a little cheaper, though.

.........decisions, decisions, decisions.............

This is one of those cards in that post:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127571&cm_re=gt440-_-14-127-571-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=8t0hi1ngf8e5




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RE: New build - 10/22/2011 3:41:26 PM   
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This would even be better. On sale till Tuesday from Frys.


http://www.frys.com/product/6553073?site=sa:adpages%20page:3


If you bought two and sent me one I could check it out for you.


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RE: New build - 10/22/2011 6:43:58 PM   
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Thanks for the links guys!

Let me ask......
If you were going to build a gaming machine with limited funds..... what would you put in it?
In other words..... I'd like a list of pieces and parts. I trust you guys totally!!
Gee, that sounds like I'm too lazy to look at all this stuff myself, but trust me when I say, I've looked, I've read and have decided to ask you good people.
I hate decisions, decisions, decisions.

So, Ron posted a link to two graphics cards. What next? What goes with it?

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RE: New build - 10/22/2011 7:42:41 PM   
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I'm not a Gamer.

However the guys on PCSpecialist Forum I'm a Member of, are mostly Gamers.
Many were waiting for their Custom built PCs, before they could Run WOWC.

Those PCs use High-end SLI/Crossfire configured Gaming Video Cards. Some have water cooling.

IMO & I'm not an expert, to get the best out of WOWC, you're possibly looking at a Desktop only of £1,000 plus. Same as my new Custom built, for running iClone.

Maybe WOWC has a recommended PC Hardware Spec. If it has, then that would be a good starting point & build youi PC around that..



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RE: New build - 10/22/2011 9:38:08 PM   
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I get emails from newegg.com every day and here's one I got today:

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Oct-0-2011/systemITsale21/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL102111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL102111-_-EMC-102111-Index-_-E0-_-AllBuild#Build

I don't know how much you want to spend but I'd go with the second system on that page. Anything cheaper will probably just give you problems in the long run. I've been buying from newegg for years and they are dependable and reputable.


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RE: New build - 10/23/2011 2:45:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KGatz003.5

Hi guys!

My son has decided he wants to build a gaming pc.
He wants to play World of Warcraft and some other games like Star Wars and, and, and...... games.

He doesn't have a great deal of money so price is an issue.

Can you good people recommend pieces and parts that would run these games smoothly, but cheaply?
I guess it doesn't matter if the system is a pre-built one as long as it will run these games.

What do you think?
TBH - with that particular spec/ref its gonna be virtually impossible to recommend anything "guaranteed" to run all the games properly (seeing as nobody knows exactly what the requirements are for each individual and unmentioned game)

FWIW - I have recently "upgraded" the wife and daughter's machine from a Q8400 on a X38 Gigabyte board with 4G ram to an I7 2500 sitting on a DH67CL mobo with 4G ram running W7 (only because I had the opportunity and for no other technical reason) .......................... and with us being in SA and the WOW server they play on sitting in the UK, they are 100% happy with the machine while running on the on-board graphics at 1920x1080. This looks to me to be about the most taxing game out of the lot they play (I don't play at all) so I don't know what else to say. I have the old 9600GT sitting here in a box now wondering what to do with it, so don't go maligning the on-board stuff simply due to historical experiences. (If you get the "K" version of the same CPU - ie - 2500K you get an even more on-board powerful GPU)

"Cheaply" IMO is the absolute worst thing to do when talking wanting to play modern games on a new machine ...................... always buy bigger/more than you need currently, because sure as heck some clever spotty-faced individual will be selling a new challenge you wanna participate in not months from now and it will undoubtedly require more horsepower.

"Cheapest" aka best I can afford now IMO means you get to buy components and build the thing yourself


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RE: New build - 11/5/2011 9:37:56 AM   
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Okay..... my son and his buddies came up with some computer parts that they think will make a pretty decent gaming machine.
I admittedly have no clue, but I told them I'd run it by you awesome people and get your opinion.

Here is his wishlist so far...... What do you think??....

CORSAIR Gaming Series GS800 800W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

HIS IceQ Turbo H677QNT1GD Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMP8GX3M2B1333C9

GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX

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RE: New build - 11/5/2011 12:56:35 PM   
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This one from Tom's hardware might be of interest
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,review-32308.html

Processor choice does not make much difference so (for Battlefield 3) the AMD would be just as good as the more expensive Intel's.

Can't see the HD 6770 (if there is one) but it is obvious that one of the better spec video cards is required for high resolution output. Which raises the issue of which monitor to get.
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RE: New build - 11/5/2011 1:35:42 PM   
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Here's another chart. It seems that that cpu is no slouch.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1090T




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RE: New build - 11/6/2011 1:39:34 AM   
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IMO those components are all fine individually Kayla.

However - unless you know for a fact that you will be using crossfire (and since the mobo only support PCIE @ X8 iso X16 with dual GPUs) why splurge on a crosffire enabled/guaranteed PSU? ............ take a step back and buy around 500-600W non-crossfire "guaranteed" PSU and rather spend the money on chocolates and/or beer/wine that you know for sure you WILL be using.

The particular GPU ................ some sites list its spec as OpenGL3.2 (circa 2008)  "only" .................. maybe tighten up on the exact game specs because there are other brands of the same GPU supporting OpenGL4.0  ............. only if the games/sw they play are sensitive/dependent on OpenGL


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